Sacred Bull Attack

[goldenbeast]

The Serpent got in range and started scratching its butts. Seriously, everything about the dragonconminionolnolol is all false. Only people with no clues would believe that thing. There are certain formulas in this game and once you figure which works on which, that's pretty much it. There is no battlefield + 500, no attackers hit first, no speed + ranged is bad, no blah blah blah.

[Divinesin]

Why not? Stone has higher range (longer field), defense and life to survive for more attacks.

I had no idea stone dragon has higher range. Shows how much i use it XD

[booboobam]

Kenney, what about the Mephitic battle report? Why didn't it kill any troops? There is no range there, so it should have hit in the first round.
Even with your logic, Frost Dragon speed is 850 (with no research), so it can get into the range with the first move. So I think there is no reason that it shouldn't attack, unless the defender attacked first because Frost Dragon moved into the range of LJs and got killed before it could attack.

It seems that Attacker always moves first, but it doesn't attack even if there are troops in the range.

I wonder if SB does not work with the serpent?

[Vic]

I wonder if SB does not work with the serpent?

why don't u try 1lj+serpent and see....

[booboobam]

why don't u try 1lj+serpent and see....

why would you want to send a ranged troop in melee situation?

[greengimp]

Sacred bull only works with Fire, Stone, Water, and Wind all the other dragons arn't effected by it, that is why serpent doesn't kill any troops, because it doesn't do enough damage to cause casualties.

[Mister_Devil]

Bump the serpent and you'll see casualties. 1 strider , 1 banshee and see what happends.

As for my only try with sacred I can say this: seems to work best when they are no banshess on wall, if defender has considerable amounth of banshess on wall, you'll just waiste it, I tried all the rainbow combos with Sd & Fd on a defender which had 200k banshess on wall, i've killed none.

Maybe just happend to me, not sure, but it'a a taught.

[Justin Cooke]

I think it is related to the field length. All the dragons have smaller field range than LJ except fire and stone dragons. So I guess that's why only stone dragon had a chance of attacking, other dragons went into the range of LJs and died without having any chance to initiate attack. This surprises me cause the attacker has higher researches than the defender, so there is something else beside researches that determines who attacks first. These battle reports clearly proves that defender can initiate the battle.

I agree, it seems to be more of a Range issue than anything else, and not a case of who "initiates" the attack. In my opinion people may be getting confused with this "initiating attacks" stuff, it would be better to say who Strikes 1st. I mean let's face it....the act of hitting the Attack button is the "initiation" of the battle, then it's a matter of calculating troop's Ranges/speeds etc to discover who actually strikes the 1st blow. Whether that be an offensive attack or defensive counter-attack that lands 1st.

Granted my understanding of the actual mechanics is very limited, so I could well be wrong. Wouldn't be the 1st time! And I gladly accept any feedback to correct my assumptions.

But as far as I can work out, the 2 attacks with Frost and Mephitic Dragons failed because their Range is less than that of the LJ's defending. So those dragons are exposed to at least one round of defensive counter-attacks before they actually get into Range to land their Attack. But I'm guessing that the Mephitic was exposed to 2 rounds due to it's poor speed (half of LJ's Range? 800speed vs 1600range). Whereas the Stone Dragon's Range is actually superior to that of the LJ's (1700 vs 1600) so it was able to strike 1st before any defensive rounds occurred.

Again though, I'm only a novice regarding the mechanics and welcome any enlightenment to prove/disprove my Theory!!