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  1. #11
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    Arrow After the first day

    Quote Originally Posted by Urekon View Post
    Lol I only asked that cause the food rate was low. Obviously yo hid them in Ops or else where.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny Bowyer View Post
    85 SSD = 1530/hr consumption
    lvl 4 Farm = 1100/hr
    He clearly has research in agriculture and possibly a wild boosting his food a little.
    Obviously he can't possibly have OP's when he's only 12 hours into the game and has no Dragon.
    Only using 24h boost with nano collectors in this build, like described in the table that i use, for fast building up the speed hammer - the 1 available wild slot is reserved for a forest (not for a lake or savanna), it could be that the number wasn't exactly 85 when the screenshot was taken...

    Now after reaching the magic number 200 with my SSD's (wilds lvl3 and camps lvl1, with min.loot), i'm preparing to switch over and build up an ranged hammer, to obtain the GD armor and ED eggs in a few days - built 30 porters, just to make company to my first LBM's and carry the loot, before the AT research is complete. This doesn't mean that i will stop working on my dragon research - BD's are my favorite non-elite troops, and SSD's are the fastest, and i want to have a decent number of each of them before the protection period ends...

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    Current research (first day):
    - woodcraft level 5 and levitation level 3 (needed for AT's)
    - alloys level 3
    - rapid deployment level 3
    - weapons calibration level 2
    - metallurgy level 2
    - dragonry level 2

    Current troops:
    - 50 LBM's
    - 30 porters
    - 200 SSD's
    - 4 * 5star generals
    It was not curiosity what killed the cat, it was pure greediness...

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    Tue Mar 6 2012 09:08:25 PM

    Hello DoA player,
    We have decided to make some changes to the Wraith Dragon’s functionality.
    ...
    We want each one of you to know that we listen to all feedback. Please continue to provide feedback on our official forums an let us know what you want to see out of Dragons of Atlantis.
    The funniest thing is that i don't care about the wraith (don't need it to play), but i really don't like it when somebody tries to fool me "for my own good". Case closed, so someone of the moderators please close this thread too - there are many other online games, where they actually do listen to their players, and show some care about the people who spend time (and some money) to use their products.
    Good bye, Kabam...
    It was not curiosity what killed the cat, it was pure greediness...

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    It is possible to make this even faster, if you are ready to skip the field building part, and to actively farm everything you need from wilds lvl2 with 25-30 SSD's (choose a rainy weekend for this build-up):

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    This is a current realm, so some data is covered to prevent unwanted attention.

    Troops (more are in the train-queue): 50 AT's, 360 LBM's, 120 SSD's
    Research: MET=1, WC=1, RD=2, DRAG=2, MED=0, MERC=1, LEV=3, WOODC=5, ALL=2, CLV=1
    Fields (only 1 of each): Mine=Quarry=Farm=lvl4, Lumbermill=lvl5
    Last edited by n00bz; 06-02-2012 at 01:50 PM. Reason: added some research data
    Sorry for the errors in my posts, keep in mind that English is not my first language...

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    Arrow The next 2 days

    Building up a ranged hammer is the next goal, together with the needed research to survive attacks against Anthropus camps lvl5 - personally i'm using a five-star general, 5.2k LBM's and 300 AT's, research level's at least MED=MET=WC=4, and wave with 5-6 spies (depending on my muster point level at that moment).

    End of day four in the protection period is the last moment to have a operational GD (at least lvl 8) in your city, to start to search for the OP eggs - the same amount of troops needed for a camp lvl 5 is enough to attack wilds lvl 7, but keep on training because the armor is easier to find in higher level wilds...

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    The next goal is 12k LBM's and at least 1k AT's, while searching for the eggs to create OP's on plains lvl1 - this is surely not a build-up scenario for field or power builders...
    Sorry for the errors in my posts, keep in mind that English is not my first language...

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    Question The "End" (of the protection period)

    After day 5, you should already have all 4 eggs from the elementary dragons, attacking with your ranged hammer and the GD proper wilds:
    * water dragon egg - lake lvl5+
    * stone dragon egg - hill lvl7+
    * fire dragon egg - mountain lvl7+
    * wind dragon egg - savanna lvl7+

    Some players attack always the same wild, my suggestion is to attack all wilds with similar level around your city, and to use 10 SSD's to capture new plains lvl1 after establishing OP's, not to near to your city - my last quest for 4 ED eggs didn't last more then 3 hours...

    The same ranged hammer used for the armor can attack up to lvl8 wilds (keep that in mind while searching for the eggs), but keep on training more LBM's and SSD's using the city and OP training capacities - LBM's to attack wilds for eggs and ED armor (12k + GD lvl9 should be enough for wilds lvl10), SSD's for fast attacks on low level Anthropus camps gathering food/gold/wood and speed-ups (1.2k for lvl1, 1.8k for lvl2, 2.5k for lvl3, 5k for lvl4, 10k for lvl5):

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    You need at least 12k LBM's in your ranged hammer (for wilds lvl10) to get some extra resources, while finishing quests in advance:
    * Assist the Nomads - Send a Dragon to capture a level 10 Plain (reward: Lumber 200k, Metal 200k, Jump 1, Momentary Truce 1)
    * The Frozen Cave - Send a Dragon to capture a level 10 Mountain (reward: Stone 200k, Metals 200k, Skip 1)
    * Nature’s Blessing - Send a Dragon to capture a level 10 Forest (reward: Lumber 400k, Food 400k, 1 Skip, Stone 400k, Metals 400k)
    * Lost Within the Swamp - Send a Dragon to capture a level 10 Lake (reward: Skip 1, Metals 200k, Lumber 200k)

    Upgrading the dragons keep in all four OP's to lvl8 will bring you a part of the resources needed to train more SSD's/BD's, for your speed hammer:
    * Elemental Dragon Lord - Raise the Water, Stone, Fire and Wind Dragons to level 8 (reward: Power 40k, Metals 1mil, Lumber 1mil, Stone 1mil, Gold 100k, Testronius Powder 1, Bounce 1, Divine Rations 1)

    There are several other ways to build up, but you must keep in mind that you need to use your ranged hammer with 4 dragons (GD/water/stone/fire), while gathering talismans from camps to establish a spectral ruins (after that you can build the rest of your OP's) - and you need your speed hammer and some spies (research clairvoyance to lvl6) to gather resources and gold from other players, that's the main reason why i don't build more then 1 field in the city and no fields in the OP's...
    Last edited by n00bz; 06-17-2012 at 11:17 AM.
    Sorry for the errors in my posts, keep in mind that English is not my first language...

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    Cool One week after protection ended...

    The whole point in this game is training, building and farming - mostly much more hard work then actually having fun:

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    Searching for the armor can take some time, and a certain portion of luck too - after 7 days i didn't still found 2 fire dragon armor parts,needed to get my fire dragon up in the air. In the meanwhile, my first speed hammer (100k SSd's and some BD's) is fully operational, working at the same time on my ranged hammer too - there is a long time to wait for the first lava jaws, so i will get the job done with their weaker supstitutes (LBM's)...

    After finding all armor parts for the four ranged dragons (GD/water/stone/fire), it's time to gather 100k talismans from camps lvl7 - lvl9, using the listed dragons and parts of the ranged hammer - with research MET=MED=WC=6 and AC=5, these numbers should work w/o losses:
    * lvl7 camps - 22k LBM's, 300 AT's, GD/ED lvl9 (not the wind dragon), five-star general
    * lvl8 camps - 32k LBM's, 300 AT's, GD/ED lvl9 (not the wind dragon), five-star general
    * lvl9 camps - 62k LBM's, 300 AT's, GD/ED lvl9 (not the wind dragon), five-star general
    Which combination you will use depends on the closest camps, because the ranged hammer is actually pretty slow - 1 higher camp level doubles the amount of talismans...

    With 100k talismans you can build your special ruins on a lvl7+ forrest, and go after the rest of the eggs - have fun...
    Last edited by n00bz; 06-17-2012 at 04:12 PM.
    Sorry for the errors in my posts, keep in mind that English is not my first language...

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    thank you all for your advices, but sounds still pretty complicated

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    Let's just say it's now more difficult to progress fast in the protection period, without using the market to buy stone and metal - plenty of wood/food/gold is delivered by the lower level Anthropus camps, but for the keep upgrade you'll need a few 100k stone, and that is not easy to get from wilds...

    The alternative is to buy resources, or to join some alliance early and get resources from advanced members - both options not acceptable for me... lol
    Sorry for the errors in my posts, keep in mind that English is not my first language...

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    you didnt show what troops you had, is there a reason for that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kgbgreen View Post
    you didnt show what troops you had, is there a reason for that?
    No, there is no special reason for that, and i did actually write about the numbers and kind of troops for almost each day of protection (SSD's, LBM's, AT's and spies, maybe some BD's at the end of protection period), showing them on some screenshots too - but the exact daily troop number is various for every single buildup on different realms, and does not affect much the timeline shown above...

    At the end of protection, mostly there is a speed hammer of at least 5-10k SSD's, 500-1000 spies, 15-25k LBM's and 1-2k AT's - it's all depending on the players activity and playstyle, map distances for desired targets and some luck while searching for items...

    P.S.: But like pointed out in the previous post, Kabam's recent decision to (temporary?) cut off the market makes it very difficult to expand fast in the protection period, w/o using rubies or early joining some alliance...
    Last edited by n00bz; 08-06-2012 at 10:07 AM.
    Sorry for the errors in my posts, keep in mind that English is not my first language...


 
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