Battling Wraith Defenses

[Trabbbit]

Ok. This is a serious question to serious players who have some sort of battle knowledge. To all of you that send a wraith to do your dirty work, please, don't reply, I don't need to hear a noobs theory to my question.

As some of you are aware there are recipes being introduced to defend wraiths with minimal losses. You see some of the monster players out there with mad amounts of troops have a recipe of troops defending to basically absorb all wraith attacks with minimal damage. Trading in the minimal loss for the victory and satisfication that their city wasn't farmed, and a wraith was wasted.

Usually these wraith defenses consist of long range troops...fire mirrors, lava jaws, longbows, then they throw in fangs and or ogres as a meat shield.
My question is... Is there an easy way to defeat this? Or at least put a huge hurt on them?
I understand with so many long range troops, you could use a march of 200k ogre or even giants, and force the long range troops into melee attack with such a small battle field. BUT.. you still gotta deal with the ogre/fangs that are in front of the long range. It would be nice if your attacking march slipped behind defending fangs/ogre and battled long range from first attack, but I have a feeling the ogre/fangs defending will absorb most of the attack.

Just to give you guys an idea of what Im up against.
Defending is:
500,000 fms
2,000,000 Longbows
900,000 lava jaws
700,000 fangtooths


Im tempted to pop an altar to get better revive %, and toss a march of 200k ogres..or giants.
BUT... I would like to hear some feedback first. Has anyone encountered a defense like this and taken a stab at it? What worked? What doesnt work?...Anyone have a better idea than just 200k ogre?
Please, Im interested to hear what other experienced players have to say.

[bloopville]

A couple of thoughts here: It's been awhile since I attacked a massive Wraith defense and mechs may have changed.

1. In the past, without a speed shield, if you sent waves of only speed troops, you would get right into the ranged. I have sent waves of cheap SSDs and BDs, and they would go and eat a chunk of LJs, when there was no banshee shield. I have been waiting to see it they still work like that.

If I remember, 200k SSDs would take out 15k to 25k LJs, and BDs, a little more. This was a worthwhile trade to me. 200k bans should do a lot more damage, if this mechanic is still the same.

2. The other option was the old Sacred Bull, long ranged Dragon and 1 of everything. A friend of mine lost 500k LJs and FTs when he walled with the Wraith defense, and it is the primary reason I never see the Wraith defense anymore. The thread is here in the forum. I think he got his troops back, and Kabam may have fixed this ridiculous result, but their first reaction was that it "worked as intended". If you have a SB, give it a whorl, maybe it still work.

[vannbabe]

Yes Fire Dragon with sacred on is your best bet with LJs, Fangs and ogres and one of each

[lindimorina]

hi Noob_57R57QT and all
if you use thistroops
500,000 fms
2,000,000 Longbows
900,000 lava jaws
700,000 fangtooths
the war is in melee, and for this i can think 200k titans and 200k lj is inaf zero lossers, as kabalistik tell us.

[smudgerglory]

Ok. This is a serious question to serious players who have some sort of battle knowledge. To all of you that send a wraith to do your dirty work, please, don't reply, I don't need to hear a noobs theory to my question.

As some of you are aware there are recipes being introduced to defend wraiths with minimal losses. You see some of the monster players out there with mad amounts of troops have a recipe of troops defending to basically absorb all wraith attacks with minimal damage. Trading in the minimal loss for the victory and satisfication that their city wasn't farmed, and a wraith was wasted.

Usually these wraith defenses consist of long range troops...fire mirrors, lava jaws, longbows, then they throw in fangs and or ogres as a meat shield.
My question is... Is there an easy way to defeat this? Or at least put a huge hurt on them?
I understand with so many long range troops, you could use a march of 200k ogre or even giants, and force the long range troops into melee attack with such a small battle field. BUT.. you still gotta deal with the ogre/fangs that are in front of the long range. It would be nice if your attacking march slipped behind defending fangs/ogre and battled long range from first attack, but I have a feeling the ogre/fangs defending will absorb most of the attack.

Just to give you guys an idea of what Im up against.
Defending is:
500,000 fms
2,000,000 Longbows
900,000 lava jaws
700,000 fangtooths


Im tempted to pop an altar to get better revive %, and toss a march of 200k ogres..or giants.
BUT... I would like to hear some feedback first. Has anyone encountered a defense like this and taken a stab at it? What worked? What doesnt work?...Anyone have a better idea than just 200k ogre?
Please, Im interested to hear what other experienced players have to say.

200k ssd will target is ljs killing between 37-47k. so if you all have some ssds to burn then wipe out his ljs

This is based on both having full research and at the time of testing (july 9th) there wasn't a level 11 wall. So be intersting to retest that with defnce with level 11 wall, so how much ljs are saved.

[N00b_123N142]

what about bumps 200klj fd and sacred bull since he is not walling any melee/speed for go to block anyway seems like best bet to me.

[smudgerglory]

what about bumps 200klj fd and sacred bull since he is not walling any melee/speed for go to block anyway seems like best bet to me.

He will suffer more losses for sure, but cheaper ways to wipe that if he stays walled. Get all members of your alliance to send ssd at him, his ljs will soon be gone.

[jellyfish]

200k ssd will target is ljs killing between 37-47k. so if you all have some ssds to burn then wipe out his ljs

This is based on both having full research and at the time of testing (july 9th) there wasn't a level 11 wall. So be intersting to retest that with defnce with level 11 wall, so how much ljs are saved.

ssd will kill nothing they will be dead before engaging the ljs

[smudgerglory]

ssd will kill nothing they will be dead before engaging the ljs

He has no speeds on the wall. The ssd will just head straight to the ljs.

[smudgerglory]

ssd will kill nothing they will be dead before engaging the ljs

He has no speeds on the wall. The ssd will just head straight to the ljs.

Here is a activity report to show. This with mellee and ranged left on wall, the defence speed troops was killed on 1st attack: