Stop Changing the Success Rate

[DissapointedAgain]

Thank you.
If I may , can I press you to clarify slightly?..."Unable"? = don't know/have no access to that info; Or does 'unable' mean you won't give out the info because it would jeopardise sales if folks actually knew the chances of success v failure?
Just saying "unable" leaves the door wide open for speculation of a kind that could be more damning than giving out the info in the first place would have been...You should know the mood of 'the natives' by now...

EDIT...
We all know the chances of winning the National Lottery, they tell us the odds of success, they don't use a graphic that has no meaning, dare I say the lottery are more honest with their customers than Kabam seem to want to be?

They do not want to give it out because they like to be able to screw with the success rates etc behind our backs. Once something is "known" you have a lot harder time changing those variables. So by keeping us in the dark, we can't dispute the facts that success rates have dropped or been boosted. I also like to think, that since the slider bar only gives us 'low and high' that the percentages of success are actually not very close to 100% when you get to 'high' I would aim that the 'high' side of the bar is actually only really a 75% or less chance of success.

It isn't a matter of we can't give out this information.... it is a Matter of we WON'T. And I would have thought that since cold hard plastic is buying 'some' of these items to stop breakage and boost chances that it would be a game of chance and that odds SHOULD be required. One would actually need to have a lawyer friend to ask about this.

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i agree its just fair to let us nkow the en percentage off a succes in enhancing an item or upgrading eaven the lotery has percentage rates

[Noob_58HXKXF]

nothing has upgraded/enhanced in my throne room for days. The last two days have been horrendous.
On one domain trying to enhance from epic to won. Not happening
Another domain trying to go from won+3 to won+4. guess what...not happening
The throne room was getting to be fun, and I have about 40 pieces that I need to work on.
At this rate I might get one upgrade by x-mas

[Thrimist]

Lets look at this logically real quickly, without any tokens, and with this double activity bar event, a person can have a base bonus to success of 42% if they have L12 forgemaster. Now since a lesser lucky token is supposed to double that, one might think that youd have an 84% chance, but judging by how kabam operates, it doubles your base percentage most likely, as opposed to the adjusted % with bonuses. Even still, that should get you somewhere in the neighborhood of 45-50% success chance per upgrade. Im not going to run the numbers right now, but for people to be failing when using 200 tokens in a row during this event to try to upgrade one item, is nearly impossible, its about as likely as winning the lottery. Simple probability states that it would be 1/(2^200), which is an incredibly small number. Kabam cant explain their success rates because the system is messed up and doesnt function properly, its just another way to make us spend money when we get frustrated and impatient with their flawed system. Heck, the TR has been around forever and I still cant use an aura of command in conjunction with a march size bonus or else it reduces my wave back to 250k, and that should be a ridiculously simple fix. Kabam are bad programmers, and dont care about putting out a good product, nobody should be surprised by now. I think everyone realizes they are a slipshod company who spend all their time trying to get into your wallet as opposed to making a proper functioning game and letting the profits flow honestly.

[AlexTheKid72]

The entire problem with the throne room is that every attempt you make is a new "chance" - it is possible how the system is now to fail infinitely, even using tokens, even in a double or triple chance event. The random generator does not take into account that you have already failed "x" number of times trying for the same upgrade. Either we are lucky or we aren't.
I ask the Game Masters repeatedly if success rates are being monitored and "tweaked" when too many players get "lucky" - and their emphatic answer is no, success rates have never been adjusted. Either you're lucky, or you're not.
That the unlucky streak may last forever is not comforting thought and does nothing to enhance gameplay. Myself and other Knights are trying to get Kabam to see that the general feeling is not one of achievement at the few successes we have, but one of hopelessness at the repeating fails.

Auras of Command were not intended to work in conjunction with March Size, it isn't a bug. Auras of Authority and Dominion do however.

[Thrimist]

The entire problem with the throne room is that every attempt you make is a new "chance" - it is possible how the system is now to fail infinitely, even using tokens, even in a double or triple chance event. The random generator does not take into account that you have already failed "x" number of times trying for the same upgrade. Either we are lucky or we aren't.
I ask the Game Masters repeatedly if success rates are being monitored and "tweaked" when too many players get "lucky" - and their emphatic answer is no, success rates have never been adjusted. Either you're lucky, or you're not.
That the unlucky streak may last forever is not comforting thought and does nothing to enhance gameplay. Myself and other Knights are trying to get Kabam to see that the general feeling is not one of achievement at the few successes we have, but one of hopelessness at the repeating fails.

Auras of Command were not intended to work in conjunction with March Size, it isn't a bug. Auras of Authority and Dominion do however.

Every time you flip a coin it is a new chance as well, but when it is 50/50 basically, the odds of continuously getting the undesired outcome are what I listed 1/2^x where x is the number of tries. Why shouldnt auras of command work with march size? it makes the item completely worthless, no one gifts them anymore and nobody would ever buy them, so why even have them in the game then?

"The Law of Large Numbers states that the probability of an event deviating significantly from its expected or theoretical probability becomes smaller as the number of repetitions of the experiment increases.

That is, the larger your experimental trials or sample size the more certain your results will reflect the expected or theoretical probabilities.

Example: It is possible to toss a fair coin and get 10 Heads in a row; however, if you continue to toss the coin say 200 times, the probability of getting a Head will be closed to that expected, ½ . "

SO once again, to keep failing through that many tries is HIGHLY improbable, I think the activity bonus doesnt actually work, forgemasters resolve probably doesnt as well, and if not, then Kabam seriously f**ked up their probability. Take a math class ppl